Thoughts on Judaism

Tuesday, November 08, 2005

Even Geocentrism is not Geocentric

Observant astronomer does it again, showing that even the geocentric models do not support geocentrism. He links to his earlier discussion of "strong" and "weak" geocentrism.

The reason why this is important to our discussion is that apologists tend to want to defend the "strong" geocentrism position as a "Torah" position, and they use medieval astronomy liberally, leading down some silly alleys. Even the Rambam clearly operates based on what Observer says here. Besides the modern reasons that he set forth before, even the ancients, who believed in it, could not make it work.


  • Actually the link there is to the previous post in the Great Divide series. The link you are thinking of is this one.

    By Blogger The Observer, at 2:26 PM  

  • I just found a very cool tool to get info:

    Rosen + QM + Aspect

    Set up a Google password and log-in
    and go to instead of searching the internet your search query is referred to a database of tons of books--including new--they've scanned in. Pages of lists of books comes up with their cover pictures: double click on the image of the book cover you choose and the page with the "hit" comes up (not text, electronic copy) with the "hit" highlighted. You can go two pages back, I think, and forward. I don't remember needing to use a credit card to
    get the log-in (like Amazon?).

    This is so amazing. I tried "Rosen + QM + Aspect" and "Rebbe + Messiah + Chabad" and was very very impressed. These are current. I think some publishers are going nuts over this--but it is fun.

    Rebbe + Messiah + Chabad

    By Anonymous Paul Freedman, at 4:45 PM  

  • That was an excellent article. TY.

    By Blogger Shlomo, at 4:10 AM  

  • More info on our geocentric universe here:

    By Blogger Strangelove, at 4:48 PM  

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